A menudo suelo recibir ofertas de compra de algún dominio de los muchos que tengo registrados (lo mismo que Carlos), pero la mayoría de ellas suelen ser falsas. Como tengo muchos dominios, las suelo detectar fácilmente, porque todas tienen un formato parecido, a vecez incluso idéntico:
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Hello,Sorry to bother you, however I would like to ask if the teologia.com domain name is for sale.
If we can agree upon a price, I can make payment securely and quickly via spam.com Could you let us know what price you would consider? Thank you greatly for your time. I anticipate your response.Take care, Symbo Tech LLC |
La verdad es que al principio estas ofertas te ilusionan, pensando que tu dominio ha despertado el interés de alguien, pero después llega la decepción. Si les contestas con una cantidad, te preguntan que como sabes que el dominio vale esa cantidad y te invitan a usar un sistema de valoración de dominios (de pago), que supongo que pertenecerá a el spamer timador.
A m también me llegó ese timo al mail, unos sin verguenzas más..
Yo tengo el siguiente:
Es un timo?
Hello,
Please send me price for your domain.
We are very interested in this name.
Did you get offers from other people already?
Our company develops client-server systems ( MS SQL/ Visual C++ ), so investing in domain names is not my main business.
Looking forward to do business with you.
Best regards,
Nakagami Mudosaki, Ph. D.
President
Opera Solutions Ltd.
Prueba a contestarles con una cantidad que a ti te interese, y si te responden que necesitan una valoracion del dominio por una empresa… seguramente sea un engaño.
Comentanoslo si eso.
Bueno pues la cosa sigue así:
Hello,
There´s no concrete price for this domain.
im also looking foward to do bussines with you.
please make an offer and i will consider it.
i will give you an answer as soon as posible.
Best regards,
Javi
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need to know the lowest price you can accept.
What is your price range: $5,000 or $10,000 or even higher?
Please send it to me via email as soon as possible.
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I was thinking in 12000€.¿How would you like to do the transaction?
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12,000 euro. Ok.
Do you sell a web site or just the name? We are mostly interested in domain names.
Do you have an appraisal certificate?
Domain name is an investment for me. In other words I’m going to sell your name later and make a profit. If I overpay I won’t be able to make a profit in the future. It’s very important for you and me to know the current market value of your domain.
Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging a reputable appraisal company. I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. I will only accept appraisals from independent sources I know and trust.
To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies in a forum
http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/75039.htm
Juck check this posting.
If the appraisal comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. I also hope you can give me 10% – 15% discount of the appraised value.
After I get an appraisal from you we’ll continue our negotiations.
How do you prefer to get paid: http://www.escrow.com, http://www.PayPal.com check or wire?
Hope we can come to an agreement fast.
Looking forward to your reply.
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If you are interested in this domain name the price is 12.000euro.
I don´t need an appraisal, so please tell me if you want to continue our
negotiations.
I don´t mind if you want to do an appraisal yourself.
I agree the way you are suggesting to do the transaction.
Looking foward to your reply.
I sell just the name not the web site.
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I need a proof that our price is fair. I hope you understand the
importance of this question.
Usually, people who are selling names or web sites, provide buyers with
appraisals. This is a common practice and I’m not going to change this rule
because it’s the best way to protect an investment.
I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. So I
cannot accept appraisal from each and every site. I will only accept
appraisals from independent appraisal companies I know and trust.
Reading responses from experienced sellers I was impressed by one reply:
«Many Internet users are not smart enough and popular domain brokers are
using this fact to make money. They offer them cheap appraisal services. But
if their customers would have something in their heads they’d understand
experts could not make a professional research for $15-$20. These appraisals
are made by machines. Easy money for such appraisers as
http://www.Afternic.com and several other major brokers that offer cheap
auto-generated appraisals. In my eyes, all services under $60-$65 are not
manual and the results are generated by special scripts. I don’t trust
auto-generated appraisals.»
The same is true for GoDaddy and SEDO. Their services are not manual. They
are just collecting money using their well-known names.
Thank you for understanding. I’m looking forward to do business with you.
Please tell me in which independent appraisal companies do you know and trust.
And how much will be the appraisal service.
de este tipo de engaños, me llegan varios cada mes!!!
Lo siento Javi, es un timo 🙁
Hola amigos yo tengo el mismo caso, y por suerte coloque el nombre de la persona que esta haciendo la oferta en google y llegue aquí….. jejeje les adjunto toda la conversación del mail que me llego para que vean que es lo mismo para mala suerte 🙁
esto es hasta la oferta que hicieron….. si se dan cuenta es lo mismo que ya esta escrito en un caso anterior…..
How about 9,000 USD? Ok?
Do you sell a web site or just the name? We are mostly interested in domain names.
Do you have an appraisal certificate?
Domain name is an investment for me. In other words I’m going to sell your name later and make a profit. If I overpay I won’t be able to make a profit in the future. It’s very important for you and me to know the current market value of your domain.
Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging a reputable appraisal company. I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. I will only accept appraisals from independent sources I know and trust.
To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies in a forum
http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/75039.htm
Juck check this posting.
If the appraisal comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. I also hope you can give me 10% – 15% discount of the appraised value.
After I get an appraisal from you we’ll continue our negotiations.
How do you prefer to get paid: http://www.escrow.com, http://www.PayPal.com check or wire?
Hope we can come to an agreement fast.
Looking forward to your reply.
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From: en venta en venta sd
To: Opera Solutions
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: hostingecuador.net (sent 05-06-06)
hello, I have another interesting offer, Which is your offer?
Opera Solutions escribió:
Hello,
Please send me price for your domain.
We are very interested in this name.
Did you get offers from other people already?
Our company develops client-server systems ( MS SQL/ Visual C++ ), so investing in domain names is not my main business.
Looking forward to do business with you.
Best regards,
Nakagami Mudosaki, Ph. D.
President
Opera Solutions Ltd.
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Aquí esta el otro mail que me llego, identico a los anteriores casos :), bueno tengan mucho cuidado con este asunto.
Hasta pronto.
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I need a proof that our price is fair. I hope you understand the
importance of this question.
Usually, people who are selling names or web sites, provide buyers with
appraisals. This is a common practice and I’m not going to change this rule
because it’s the best way to protect an investment.
I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. So I
cannot accept appraisal from each and every site. I will only accept
appraisals from independent appraisal companies I know and trust.
Reading responses from experienced sellers I was impressed by one reply:
«Many Internet users are not smart enough and popular domain brokers are
using this fact to make money. They offer them cheap appraisal services. But
if their customers would have something in their heads they’d understand
experts could not make a professional research for $15-$20. These appraisals
are made by machines. Easy money for such appraisers as
http://www.Afternic.com and several other major brokers that offer cheap
auto-generated appraisals. In my eyes, all services under $60-$65 are not
manual and the results are generated by special scripts. I don’t trust
auto-generated appraisals.»
The same is true for GoDaddy and SEDO. Their services are not manual. They
are just collecting money using their well-known names.
Thank you for understanding. I’m looking forward to do business with you.
Una vez que movi un poco la venta del dominio xomoxo.com, recibí una oferta en mi correo desde una cuenta de este tipo, eso si, me obligaban a valorar mi dominio con una herramienta como la que citas. Claramente no accedí, y les dije que lo importante del dominio era el nombre, que si les interesaba que lo pagasen ellos y luego si accedían a comprarlo lo descontaba del precio. Pero ahí ya perdí el contacto con ellos.
Saludos
Yo cai en el fraude en 2004 y perdi cerca de 1000 Euros, cosas que pasan, hay que tener mucho cuidado la red está llena de buitres que se dedican a robar a los demás en vez de esforzarse en hacer bien las cosas.
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«Solo las cosas bien hechas prosperan [Grupo ACS]».
A mi me paso lo mismo que a todos, aunque por fortuna no me dejé cegar por el precio que me ofrecian sin regatear nada.
¿Qué tal raza?, pues a Mí también me enviaron un correo de éste tipo, quizá porque vieron que soy nuevo, no sé, pero obviamente no caí, si dice claramente que quiero 190Euros, no veo razón para que me ofrezcan 5,000 jeje, terminé el problema pidiéndole los 60Euros por adelantado. Aquí dejo la conversación para ir acopiando nombres de éstos pifiosos, Gracias.
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head-office@bonbon.net to me
show details Sep 13 (6 days ago)
Hello,We have seen your domain listed for sale. What are your expectations in
Euros or US dollars?
We are in real estate but invest in web project too. We have a solid
investing budget and our company is very interested in Internet names and
web sites.
If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.
Looking forward to do business with you.
Regards,
Gilbert Reuter
CEO
BON Office Group
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Upon careful consideration with my partners, we feel that 5000 eur is a good price for your domain. What do you think? We are also interested in other names
Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?
Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.
Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It’s very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.
To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.
Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://webdiscuss.007sites.com/Archive-07-2009/81345627.htm
If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% – 15% discount.
After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we’ll continue our negotiations.
What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?
Hope we can come to an agreement fast.
Looking forward to your reply.
Pues vaya manera de hacer perder el tiempo a la gente.
Muchas gracias Ferran por posts como este.
Saludos!
Pues sí que se están haciendo de oro las empresas con esto, la última respuesta a este post es de hace 5 años y aún siguen con ello…
Claro… tú no vas a ir a otro servicio a que te valoren… en mi caso fue darme de alta ayer en sedo (estoy de novato con la reventa de dominios) y gracias a que soy desconfiado y siempre me pongo a buscar información.
Gracias a tod@s !
buenos dias a mi me han enviado un mensaje en donde me dice que esta interesado en mi dominio y me ha propuesto registrarme en PayPal para que me haga el pago, lo curioso es que me envia mensajes en esapnol pero mal gramatialmente y muchas veces no coonjuga bien los veerbos, ya en muchas ocasiones me ha costado entender lo que me queria decir. En fin que le di mi orreo para ingresarme en la cuenta de PayPal el dinero y ahora me vino un mensaje en donde me ha ingresado 700€ mas segun el y que debo pagar 400€ a la firma de transportes 400€ pero el dinero todavia no llega a mi cuenta PayPal. Que Hago?
Cuidado, puede ser dinero robado. ¿Has firmado un contrato?